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Friday, October 1, 2010

LISTEN CLEARLY...

This is not a lesson or an emailled letter of repremand.
This is simply an observation.


Once the obsevation is understood, then you can draw your own questions.

Then, It is a test.

Is there always an Answer?

There is no question in the final conclusion.



Understanding the English, the language, the que...

Observing the ball, the stick, the pocket, the pull.

Wool, is that an exotic material?

Billiard balls relay with felt on the table to land in your pocket.

What for? Why Felt?

The pockets differ in both style and function, some route to return back.

Racked together, the sound of a break...



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Concider that Hearing and Listening are delicate processes
that require some concentration to do both at the same time.

Then understanding that, because of their similarities, differentiating
between which of the two is difficult to discern.
Reading and writing may be writen as casually as any moment in speaking, or

or drawn out within an archeatecture for a great technical concern for interpretation.



"Leadership commands" differ from the technicalities of "commanding leadership".




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Last week I listened to piece of news

but preferred to search it later on the internet,

as it was a speaking occaision of our President on

all networks.


What was it he said; as I was sure it was exact-"LISTEN TO ME CLEARLY..."?
...and to whom?
That I do not know, but I do not think it was a reporter, but more anyone who would ask that question.

So what was the question?

Listen clearly to a way that it may not matter, at least not to the speeker.



My search continued for a while...

But now the transcripts show nothing, where I have looked within the timelines.
Nothing IN THAT WAY as written...
Nore could I find it Keyword searching, "as noted", and nore at all for even a MisHeard
"Let me make myself clear",.... (big difference).


Importance -

That was, at the moment I heard that, the Point Of Turning Away,
for he was bitter and speaking in a scolding way and chastising in manor;
Myself not knowing the contexts and only hearing 30 seconds or so before,
was a mention of the Mosque building at Ground-Zero issue in NYCity; and
that with the given, the speech dialogue, subject known, and in his furthering
of his concepts I heard, AT THAT MOMENT, THEY were tooo demanding
in attitude.
SO,
No Interest in Listening,
NOT with the attitude spoken
nor for the subject and topic,
to listen to ANY MORE at that moment.


Now I dont even have the date, as this draft had changed each day to the date saved.

Of his spoken words in question with-in the speach:

To inerpret just the word or text value to start, involves two entirely different attitudes,

and also, either WAY would presume a different demeanor of "values and principles"

, whether to accept or except..
...or of either- not another choice was presented, though as a Free Country,
we all know we do not ""have to"", and that there are other
reasonings THAT WE ARE endowed BY...
...whatever...AND we have our rights...
(THIS LETTER OF OBSERVATION SHOULDN'T DRIFT THAT DIRECTION)

The rest of this is from my own notes serached and a few
others may have researched, enough for me to note here.
MAYBE I'll get back to that quote,
...PUZZLED
...COULD a remark by the President just last week suddenly really
be unavailable in transcripts, forums, or any searchEngine results
by any title or keywords"??
?-No Way... .
...so odviously, I knew I must search other content , contexts, ect...

ALL I CAN HOPE IS THAT WHAT I GATHERED TO THIS POINT

IN THE DRAFT MAKES SOME SENSE ENOUGH TO EVALUATE AND

LEAD FROM A POINT OF WISDOM, WITH WHATEVER THE DETAILS

ARE TO CONCIDER WITHIN THE DISCERNING.

AND ...WITH, OR WITHOUT, THE KNOWLEDGE.

First, about listening!
Then I add the daily news([boxed in table below]}
and finaly, then after, I bring this to a close...(SCROLL DOWN)

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Abbove all, Love!
In what I write here
that others can find it REMEMBER Most Of what is written here is by other authors, and probably has copyrites.
AVOID MISUNDERSTANDING (i.e. Latin)
In my many points, that I attempt myself to make, i've told others about a "liveable with" liveyhood, "to seek God first, and pray",within a practical reasoning to condition, and to continue ...pray, fast, study, and live and work/ each in faith...
I often forget details when not knowing what a person is/was/has finaly lead up to; and have found for myself, that in that point, it is helpful to know- that- God is seeking you, or us, also!
With that in mind, a "please ReEvaluate"...becomes part of listening, if your faith knows you heard it.
Suppose an "exuse me, you can not revalue" the faith that wasn't yours, though it assumed you into context.
Pray (i,e. : observation

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"In the life of the Indian there was only
one inevitable duty, the duty of prayer,
the daily recognition of the Unseen and
Eternal. His daily devotions were more
necessary to him than daily food."
-Charles A. Eastman (Ohiyesa)
SANTEE SIOUX


The most important habit one can develop is
the daily act of prayer. Prayer is our eyes, our
ears, our feelings, our success, our guidance,
our life, our duty, our goal. There really is
only prayer and meditation. We can only help
others through prayer. We can only help our-
selves through prayer. You can never become
an Elder unless you pray. You can never stay
an Elder unless you pray. You never get wis-
dom unless you pray. You never understand
love unless you pray.

Great Spirit,
today, teach
me to pray.

By: Don Coyhis


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Obama cites 'difficulty' while honoring 9/11 | 0 Votes
Iconic images from tragic events of 9/11 | See the memorable images from the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Photos | Karzai appeals over civilian deaths | Ground Zero
SO WHAT , I've heard of "right-wing conspired" theories/
EVERYONE HAS
This 1 i haven't heard of:
9/11 film doc says Clintons directed from left wing
August 15, 2008|Lynn Smith, Times Staff Writer

In Hollywood docudramas, when the phrase "miscarriage of justice" is employed,

it usually applies to the film's subject, not its creators.

But a new documentary called "Blocking the Path to 9/11," to be given a screening tonight, makes the case that former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton have pressured television and studio executives into quashing the DVD

release of ABC's 2006 miniseries “The Path to 9/11."

The privately financed documentary argues that the Clintons, who decried the original miniseries as a right-wing hatchet job, are out to salvage their political influence and legacy at the expense of free expression.



The Path to 9/11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a two-part miniseries that placed the blame for the September 11, 2001, .... As noted in the documentary, Disney/ABC denies this and claims the decision ... From Clinton Administration Urge Disney to Cancel or Revise 9/11 Mini-Series. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Path_to_9/11 -

The Path to 9/11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a two-part miniseries that placed the blame for the September 11, 2001, .... As noted in the documentary, Disney/ABC denies this and claims the decision not ... Retrieved May 25, 2010. ^ "Is Clinton's candidacy blocking 'Path to 9/11'? ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Path_to_9/11 - - Similar

Cyrus Nowrasteh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As noted in the documentary, Disney/ABC denies this and claims the decision not to release a DVD ... "...the point of my documentary is not to 'blame' 9/11 on Bill Clinton. .... This page was last modified on 30 August 2010 at 16:29. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Nowrasteh - Similar





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A monopoly condemned by the Sherman Act is the power to fix prices, or exclude competition, coupled with policies designed to use and preserve that power. ”
^ THAT WAS FROM(Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Edition) The description con-
-tinues-
(CONTINUED: The Federal Reserve Act goes one step farther, “No Senator or Representative in Congress shall be a member of the Federal Reserve Board or
an officer or director of a Federal Reserve Bank.” They didn’t want "We The People" to have any say in the operation of their monopoly through our elected officials.
Recall the quote from John Mayard Keynes:
“There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of
society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden
forces of economic laws on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner
which not one in a million is able to diagnose.”
Keynes seems to be quite accurate in his statement.

... So far, anyway.....

...(ANYWAY, I ADDED THAT NOTE AND LINKED FOR ANY THOUGHTS TO THE SANCTITY OF THE USE OR PURPOSES RELATED TO MONEY)


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"AMERICAN ENGLISH" CONJUGATE "LISTEN TO" WHO WHOSE WHOM

Sacred site means any specific, discrete, narrowly delineated
> location on Federal land that is identified by an Indian tribe, or an
> Indian individual determined to be an appropriately authoritative
> representative of an Indian religion, as sacred by virtue of its
> established religious significance to or ceremonial use by, an Indian
> religion; provided that the tribe or appropriately authoritative
> representative of an Indian religion has informed the Department of
> the Interior of such a site.

Before I ever showed up at the Native American Sacred Lands Forum, I knew

that I wanted to record how people were feeling. It appears that others were

more interested in what people were saying. And here is how I found out:

As I was in the process of summarizing Tuesday’s panel presentations, I

compared my handwritten notes with the first-draft transcriptions of the video

recordings. My notes show Chris Peters, Pemina Yellow Bird and Charles

Wilkinson (a white man who knows from experience about Thunder) all

acknowledged the thunderstorm that raged outside the open windows of the

hall. Thunder Beings often visit to show their interest in our doings. They often

bring rain to bless the people in their endeavors. They showed themselves ―

brash and noisy ― in Boulder while we talked about how to protect lands that

are sacred and precious to tribal Native Americans.

But the transcriptions did not contain the panelists’ comments about the

thunder and rain. The transcriber did not feel it was necessary to record them,

apparently feeling that those comments were extraneous. Whether or not the

transcriber was in the room while the thunderstorm was raging, she either

didn’t hear or didn’t notice the Thunder Beings when they made themselves

known in the wind, rain, lightning and thunder, and she certainly didn’t think

the event was worth recording. This points to an interesting but critical difference

between Native and non-Native thinking.

Many or most tribes believe and acknowledge that there are beings on this

earth whom we cannot see, but who have power greater than humans. The

Thunder Beings are such ones. Many Native Peoples pray to the Thunders and

others for help on a regular basis. So when the Sacred Lands Forum was

opened with prayer, and when the panelists began their presentations about

sacred subjects, and when the wind started to blow and the lightning flashed

and the thunder cracked and rumbled, the speakers acknowledged the

Thunders and thanked them for their presence at our meeting.

Meetings that are called to talk about sacred or spiritual subjects are often

visited by the Thunder Beings, who come with the powerful rain. Native

Peoples accept and welcome such visits, and acknowledge them, because we

are truly grateful for the power lent to us by the spirit beings. They are part of

the natural world, just as humans are ― living, thinking and acting. Native

People acknowledge this; non-Natives often do not.

Laws that are made by non-Native governments reflect this difference

between cultures. Those laws ignore spiritual necessities of Native Peoples, the

strong relationship between humans and our natural environment. This is the

very reason this Sacred Lands Forum was called, to discuss ways to convince

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non-Natives that we ignore the spiritual aspects of the environment at our

peril. Therefore, it was especially significant that the transcriber did not feel

that any mention of the Thunders should be a part of the official record of the

proceedings. This is not meant to criticize the transcriber, but only to show

that different cultures assign priorities for drastically different cultural reasons,

and the process is unconscious and automatic, and very often harmful to

those on the wrong end of the assumption. (The verbatim comments about

the Thunders have since been added to the transcription in Appendix 1.)

If we are to be truly successful in any effort to change legislation and policy,

we must change the way we perceive and react to cultures other than our own.

We must learn how and why each culture believes and acts in a certain way,

and must make room for (or accommodate, as some would say) the differences

by crafting laws that allow for the different beliefs, avoiding harmful

impacts on the groups most likely to be affected ― in this case, Native Peoples

and our sacred places. Protecting the sacred from harm requires education,

thoughtfulness and constant vigilance to be sure that we are accurate in our

assumptions and appropriate in our actions. The necessity of education

became a refrain that rang many times during the short two days of the

Forum.

Marlon Sherman

Indian Dispute Resolution Services

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ABOUT THE REPORT

■ This report conveys both the literal content and the essence of the two-day

dialogue. The following executive summary provides background on the

events leading up to the Forum and a summary of the Forum’s recommendations,

including those made by the working groups which focused on six areas:

education, Native leadership, legal tools and legislation, land management

policies, consultation, and an additional “all relevant issues” category. Subsequent

sections and appendices contain summaries and transcripts of panelists’

remarks from the opening session (Tuesday), a narrative summary of

the recommendations of the second day’s (Wednesday’s) working groups, and

transcribed notes from their deliberations. The report concludes with recommendations

and observations about the Forum for consideration by organizers

of future dialogue sessions. Appendices list forum participants and their

contact information, and provide a summary of the various laws and agency

policies relating to sacred lands, including relevant web sites.

The report was drafted by Lakota author Marlon Sherman of Indian

Dispute Resolution Services. It is based on his observations at the forum, supplemented

by videotapes, transcripts and notes of the session participants.

Summaries of the small groups were reviewed in draft by a number of Forum

participants. Several drafts of the entire report were reviewed by the Forum

planning committee. The final draft document was sent to all Forum participants

for comments. Many of these reviewers provided comments that were

incorporated into the final report.

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EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

Purpose of the Forum

■ Sacred landscapes, large and small, are a central concern to Native

American nations, communities, spiritual leaders and activists. Sacred places

embody values, beliefs, spirits, history, ceremonies, relationships and secrets.

Sacred sites are at the core of cultural identity and health. Their protection and

care is an ancient mandate and life-giving covenant. Yet hundreds of diverse

native communities, whether recognized by the Federal government or not,

have long watched sacred places threatened or destroyed by pothunters,

extractive industries, government agencies, recreational interests and New Age

spiritual seekers. The American Indian Religious Freedom Act of 1978 failed to

protect sacred lands and Executive Order 13007 of 1996 has been marginally

effective. The National Environmental Policy Act and the National Historic

Preservation Act, while potentially more useful, have not been adequate. The

need for dialogue, critical thinking, and a constructive, forward-looking strategy

is clear.

The Native American Sacred Lands Forum (the Forum) was called because

of a voiced need by Native Americans to find solutions to the very serious lack

of protection given to sites and issues considered sacred by tribes.

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TO WHOM NOT....
One thing we know about Barack Obama is that he is committed to ruling in direct opposition to three-fourths of the American people on all core issues-PRESS- -REPORT: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/site/comments/obama-okays-victory-mosque/.
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"...", within a Holiday frame of mind I do wonder in this note...
... myself:
...For those that survived the battles and wars of history and of many who are still living
today; of those ways of so many, as if we all shared in dieing a little, we died not, and
eventually must ammend our ways to just that; our living. We each can now act sensibly
if we want to for the time is set aside by those before us, which almost depends on those
age old causes to eventually have their place resolved in history; and a day we can still
tend to ourselves, being both cautious and assertive to our personal and family while also
to community themes.

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Another quote: This one by The Late Robert Ghostwolf:
“In my Fathers house there are many mansions.”
It is said that our Lord spoke of His fathers house having many mansions.
That there was room enough for all who chose to come. He spoke also of having other
sheep to tend to, and that they too He must gather, for the kingdom...
...These are some words He spoke about The Time of His Return that come from
the European Bible; The King James Version.
Blessings from the Light Rev. Dr. Robert Ghost Wolf



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is it clearly "for" or "to" as it sounds?

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